Calling all Mia owners, Has anyone (any Mia Owner) experienced any damage to the plastic nearest the top left of the passenger window on the Charge plug side of the car?
I have had my Mia for 3 weeks now (Very happy Second Owner) and last night I noticed for the first time that the white plastic roof panel is damaged (Melted!) right in the very top left most corner. (The white plastic is clearly melted with bubbles formed in the plastic itself and very slight browning and hairline black cracks)
It appears that this has possibly been caused by sunlight heating the black window surround and the window somehow focusing it onto the white roof panel right in the corner, as far as I can tell this appears to be caused by environmental heating from sunlight!
Does anyone know if there is any wiring that goes around the inside of the top left corner of the side window nearest the charge plug, I am worried that something internally might be heating this area during charging and causing this damage.
Update: I have since checked the temperature of this corner of the window whilst charging and there is definitely no heating during charging which leads me to believe that this must have been caused by environmental factors i.e. Strong Sunlight being somehow focused by the round window corners and the black window surround, if this is true then it demonstrates a definite design fault.
I have been seriously winging it with the ElectroBeat for well over 18 months now, the car was never properly finished in the first place and it is well past due a number of urgent upgrades, in fact the recent issue with the odometer/mph gauge intermittently cutting out (speed would drop to zero and then jump back up) finally convinced me to start looking for an alternative EV to tide me over hence the recent and very lucky Mia find.
Here is a list of the things that need addressing on the Electrobeat
1) Fix the speedometer, I think this is a simple cable break somewhere in the loom, so trace and replace wires.
2) Pull the front battery box and test a couple of banks, I think I may have a couple of failing cells in there somewhere as the voltage drop seems to have increased dramatically recently when under extreme load (i.e. heavy foot)
3) Build a rotary wafer switch 6 pole 12 way to allow me to check the individual banks cell voltage whilst driving, this will be very useful in spotting failing cells as they often only show a problem when under extreme loads, the output of said switch will be the £20 HobbyKing battery test meter that shows voltages for up to 6P cell blocks, the Beat is using a 5P configuration, this would also allow for simplified battery balancing as I could also connect my balancing BC168 through this switch and then balance each set of 9 cells in a bank without the need to disconnect/reconnect and move the BC168 around the car to reach each set of cells, I hope to break out all the balancing wires for all 12 banks of 9 parallel cell packs around the dash somewhere so I can either run the battery monitor or battery balancer from the same 12 way 5 pole switch (need 5 poles as the cellpacks I used in the beat are 5S1P)
4) Remove the charger and insulate it properly from the car chassis not sure exactly how I will do this as there is literally no room for rubber washers AFAIK, this will become evident when I strip the charger from the car.
5) Replace the failing LCD Display in the charger (replacement screen already procured)
6) Update/mod the firmware in the charger so that it allows cv cut off of over 3.99, I need 4.20 for LIPO packs, Thread “10kW / 60A DIY charger open source design” post #2823 on the DiyElectricCar forum posted by arber333 “show the way” using this code
“Well let me show you the way... I figured out the firmware setting to go over the 3.99V in setup. It goes like this:
// wrap at 3 (for 100s) or at 9 (for 10s and 1s)
if(x == 0 && digit[x] > 4) digit[x] = 0; // from original 3 , i change to 4 - so you can select 415 for Lipo cell
if(digit[x] > 9) digit[x] = 0;”
7) Mod the charger to provide J1772 EVSE charging capability (not urgent but would be nice)
8) Fix temp sensor on Charger (I broke this during a minor overheat of the charger (monitored, hence the “minor”) after all 4 crappy fans I was using finally failed.
9) Replace the single large fan I am currently using with 2 smaller but as powerful fans, I need 2 fans for fail safe just in case fan fails during unattended charging.
10) Install/connect the rev counter possibly wire to rev meter on dash (would be nice) I will definitely connect it to the controller so that the data feed from the Ethernet port includes RPM information.
11) Install the MPH sensor for the Charge analyst
12) Install the push button controls for the charge analyst
13) Fix the burned ring terminal I bodged during my last battery box fitting when I dam nearly blew my hand off! (I forgot to insulate the positive and negative terminals (WTF!) whilst lifting one of the three battery boxes into the car and BANG! Three grams of copper instantaneously vaporised and spread around the inside of the motor bay giving it a nice purple haze!
14) Install a LVC loop test button to the dash so I can test the functionality of the Low Voltage cut out Circuit
15) Install a HVC loop test button to the dash so I can test the functionality of the High Voltage cut out Circuit
16) Get some new front tyres fitted.
17) Replace the Lead Acid battery with a Lithium Pack to reduce weight (optional but would be nice) with an LVC this time (already bricked a 12V LIFEPO block due to leaving my lights on one day! DUMMY!
18) Investigate replacement suspension struts (I think the extra weight of the battery boxes is putting greater strain on the tiny suspension struts as I find that it bottoms out when I hit speed bumps to fast) SLOW DOWN YOU MORON!
19) Replace the radio with a decent one that works (the radio is Japanese and wont pickup hardly anything) and strip out the CD changer (and flog it on eBay) as it is very inefficient compared to MP3.
20) Install some sound proofing in engine bay (I notice that even with the hood down the extra covering over the engine bay is enough to completely silence any gear whirr or motor noise) It won’t need much, a couple of inches of sound proofing foam should do.
21) Install a PC that runs from the 12V or Traction Pack so that I can log data (optional)
22) Install a Wireless router connected to PC above for possible battery monitoring BMS etc (Optional)
Ok now this is just getting silly, last week I was surfing eBay looking at the latest EV offerings and potential donor cars as I often do and I stumbled across a poorly listed Electric Car called a Mia, It is a French designed and built 3 seat minibus with a central driving position and two rear passenger seats.
Now this particular Mia was just two years old near mint condition with ~8000 miles on the clock and resided in Watford, The weird thing was that it was listed for 4K yes £4000 GBP, Now maybe it is just me but that seemed almost too cheap so after a little research I discovered that the French company that build these has gone into receivership late last year 2014 and that issue was far from resolved, However the funky looking Mia still looked like a bargain to me and so I watched the listing for a few days and it looked like no one was going to bid on it, So last Saturday I took the plunge and put in a single bid for the 4K asking price not expecting to win it in the slightest, I have bought many things (including cars) from eBay over the years and thoroughly expected the price to rocket in the last minute, It didn’t and I am now the proud owner of said Mia, And I LOVE IT :-)
So let’s get this in perspective, I just bought an EV with a 12KW LIFEPO traction pack AC motor & Controller, Regen, Eco Mode, ABS, Airbags, BMS, central locking, charger (albeit a very slow Type 1 charger) charge cable (again a cheap Chinese crap one) and the entire car is less than 3 years old, I cannot believe my luck! Oh and let’s not forget that this is a proper NCAP tested car not a quad bike with a car like cover as in the G-Wiz.
Now most people (Petrol Heads) will take one look at the Mia and laugh all the way to the gas station as in most people eyes it is completely impractical, but hang on a minute the car was in Watford and I live in Newhaven just east of Brighton, when I called the car dealer after the auction ended he said “are you bringing a trailer” “No” I replied, “I will be driving it home and charging at public charge points along the way” and after much fiddling around signing up to the Polar network and discovering that the availability of type 1 charge points in the south east of England was seriously limited I considered my options, around an hour later after I had done a few AA route planner calcs I realised that In order to get the car the following day (Sunday 7th June) I would need to dump my kids on their grandparents, Luckily my parents live around Copthorne and after another quick route plan I realised that if the 70 mile range of the Mia (Yes 70 Miles!) is to be trusted I should be able to drive it direct from the dealer to my parents in one hit ~65miles, Now this was a little risky but after a bit more research I found that the Mia also sports Regen and Eco Mode so I thought that it was worth the risk and took a tow rope just to be sure I could get it home in the event of unforeseen problems.
After arriving in Watford and getting my first look at the beauty I was taken aback by its near mint condition, apart from the missing radio front plate and a broken window catch (looks like someone may have tried and succeeded in forcing entry to the vehicle) it was perfect, I also found a single minor scratch in the front plastic cover part but this could easily be polished out.
We set off for Copthorne taking the longer but safer route round the M25, I have never driven any car with my foot so lightly on the pedal, I am talking range winning hypermiling to the extreme and with the eco mode permanently set I was amazed at how the Mia was able to recover whole miles just by coasting down hills on the motorway, the car does slow to the point to where you need to put your foot down but the LCD gauge on the dash shows you whether the car is in Eco, doing regen or using current in a very pleasing way with a swinging bar graph with 4 grades on each side, So I spent my entire journey watching this gauge like a hawk and keeping it on two bars when accelerating and trying my best to recover as much as possible when coasting or when you see an obstruction ahead don’t use the brakes but instead just coast to a halt charging the batts in the process.
The Mia rewarded my efforts by getting me to my parents’ house (65 miles) with 6 miles left on the battery meter and as I approached my parents’ house the battery warning light came on just around 50 yards from their door, well done Mia!
Thankfully my parents have a 3 pin socket in their front garden that my dad had fitted many years ago with the intention of putting electric gates in his driveway (Never happened) so I was able to just plug straight in and spend a nice afternoon chatting to the folks whilst my car charged, My dad made few jokes about “Noddy” cars but my mum loved it and I could tell that she wanted one.
So after doing a part (half) charge and checking the distance on AA route planner I set off for home, now here is where I made my fatal mistake, not doing a full charge means that the battery pack does not get time to balance properly (In fact I have just this morning learnt that in order for the pack to balance properly you need to leave it plugged in even when it reaches 100% full until the green charge light stops flashing and goes solid) and so as I approached Brighton I could see that even with my frugal use of the pedal I was not going to make it all the way home after a minor panic I decided that I would go to my work place and charge it there for a few more minutes just to get me home, 20 minutes later and I set off for home, arrived safely with 4 miles left on the clock. Well done Mia my fondness for this little EV grows daily.
Here is the picture from the eBay listing, I will post others very soon.
After waiting for a while for the guy who gave me the 3 Electric Mopeds to send me the keys and paperwork, I received a Jiffy bag the other day with all the keys and just one VC5 and a number plate for the same one.
As it turns out it is for the smallest and oldest AFAIK, a little silver moped called a V-Rider E2GO, someone had attempted to wire it up with 4 Lead Acid batteries, however they had connected them all to the 12V input and so they may well have blown something, Being fooled by the mistaken wire up I tested the moped with the batteries wired wrongly and on connection got a wicked spark, however all the 12V electrics appeared to work as expected just no traction, So I did a little web research and dug around in the box of extra bits to see if I was missing anything, after a while I discovered that this is the moped that has a lithium pack under the riders feet and a 12V Lead acid battery under the seat (leaving space under the seat for the helmet to be locked away)
So I pulled apart the obviously fugged LIPO pack (cells seriously swollen and obviously dead) and put any cells that looked like they might still be ok on a test charge but after attempting to charge 2 of the 4 blocks I found that they won’t hold a charge suggesting that a complete new LIPO pack is needed, Oh well I will probably just try and source replacement cells cheap and rebuild the genuine pack myself from scratch, it appears to have BMS boards monitoring or possibly balancing the cells, so I took a lot of photos when I was pulling the cells out so I can put it back as it was. Watch this space, I intend to get this one on the road at least as a backup for when my car is off the road for repairs/upgrades.
